up my defence, and captain Birch corrected it. He was one of the prosecutors. The Deputy Judge Advocate General always assists the prisoner in his defence. Brigadier Cartwright did not attempt to prevent my prosecutionon the contrary. On lieutenant Ramsay writing an improper letter, he was handed up to the Commander-in-Chief; he was tried and acquitted. As far as my belief goes, there was an anxious wish to get lieutenant Ramsay dismissed the service, in consequence of the gross insult he offered the Regiment, of which he was certainly acquitted. On his trial I was a witness both for the prosecution and defence.

Cross-examined by Mr. Clarke, Counsel for Mr. Ramsay. Lieutenant Ramsay was acquitted; I was a witness; lieutenant Mayhew was another. He is here to give evidence upon this trial. He was tried for perjury upon that trial, and acquitted. He was put under arrest by that Court.

Re-examined. I was most honourably acquitted. Lieutenant Ramsay was tried in 1829. I in 1831. I did not call

Mrs. Ramsay after the 15th August. I have spoken about an attempt to embrace her. Upon one occasion, when Mrs. Ramsay and I were playing at conversation cards, one came up," kiss me and I'll tell you;" I asked Mis. Ramsay how a gentleman should act on such an occasion. This was by

hind his chair, similar to the click of a pistol; I looked round, and saw a person in the undress of an officer, cocking a pistol, and re-adjusting the hammer, which must have been down, I observed the person present the pistol within a few inches of lieut. Talbot, and snap it; 1 saw sparks. A second pistol was produ ced. I looked at the face of the person, a smile came over the countenance, and I recognized Mrs. Ramsay. I say a second pistol was produced, because the cock and hammer were up; I struck at it and cut my finger a deep clear cut, which must have been by the flint. Having recognized Mrs. Ramsay I struck the pis ol, which was raised, down with my right hand. As soon as the pistol was raised above the level of the chair in which heutenant Talbot sat, I struck it down, and seized the person-we both fell down, when she exclaimed “how dare you seize me? I am Vrs. Ramsay." When she fell she had one or both pistols in her hands. I am sure she hat one. The second pistol was not pointed at lieutenant Talbot, I did not allow of time to raise it. I called for some one to come and disarm her; captain Bell and lieutenant Fisher did so.

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When I rose she got up and was placed in a chair. There were twenty or thirty persons present. When she was in the chair I asked her how she ascertained lieutenant Talbot's situation at the table, and she said she saw him through the cheeks of the window. said she was determined to take lieute. nant Talbot's life from the time he had embraced her, and attempted to ruin her character, and that she had been to the mess of his Regiment to look for him. On being asked with what the pistols were loaded, she replied with five or six and thirty grains of buck shot, which had been taken out of the punk ah. After this she was placed in custody.

On the subsequent day a Court of Inquiry was held by lieutenant colonel Tapp, when I saw some shot. They were pieces of lead, beaten with a hammer; not round. The pistols were sealed up by lieutenant Fisher.

Cross-examined by Mr. Turton. What I have said about a second pistel, is, as to belief. I say it was a second one I struck down, because I cut my finger on the flint, which I could not have done if the cock was down. I do not say, she could not have re-adjusted the first;

I was observing her countenance. I do say, I observed a smile upon it; a kind of sardonic smile. She might have, perhaps, escaped in the confusion; if the pistol had taken effect more persons would probably have been wounded, and greater confusion prevailed.

Cross examined by Mr. Clarke. The pistols were loaded with such shot as is not usually used for fire-arms.

To the Court. The load of powder in one of the pistols was very heavy. I cannot say that when the pistols were sealed up, the pans were in the same condition as when taken from the prison

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It was captain Bell and lieutenant Fisher who took hold of the lady's hands, whilst on the ground.

John Bell. I am a captain in the 1st Regiment Native Infantry, and was at Delhi in April last. On the 9th or that month, I was dining at the mess of our Regiment. I was sitting at table nearly opposite to lieut. Talbot. After the cloth had been removed, I saw Mrs. Ramsay enter the room: I did not then recognise her. She held a pistol in her hand, which she presented and cocked more than once. I called out to either Lieut. Talbot or Lieut. Corner to put him on his guard. I got up, ran round the table, and found Mrs. Ramsay struggling with Lieut. Corner. Observing a pistol in her right hand, I took it from her; I saw but one pistol; the pan was down, and it was on half cock; I examined it and found it loaded. When I took it from Mrs. Ramsay it was primed, for I threw out the priming. After examination, I gave the pistol to lieutenant Fisher; I have known Mr. Ramsay several years; I believe him to be an Eng. lishman; I am not certain. I do not know what country woman Mrs. Ramsay is.

Cross-examined by Mr. Turton. When this took place, there were between twenty and thirty persons present at the mess. I sat near the end of the table; I did not move till the pistol had been more than once or twice snapped. I only observed one pistol. I did not see lieutenant Corner move at all; I was not at ending to him. I did not see Mrs. Ramsay attempt to escape. One or two persons may have retired from the mess; all who dined there, were present, I believe, with the exception of When I took one pistol from Mrs.

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Ramsay, I did not observe a second; I did not remark fire come from the flint.

James Fisher. I am a lieutenant in the 1st Regiment, Native Infantry, which was quartered at Delhi Cantonment, in April last. On the 9th of that month, I dined at the Mess of my Regiment; lieutenant Talbot was there. I sat on the same side of the table as be did. A short time after the dessert had been placed on the table, my notice was attracted by a person in the dress of an officer, coming from the room, in which the band played. I saw the person place the pistol close to lieutenant Talbot's head, and holding it with both hands, snap it once, cock and snap it again. I got up and ran towards the person; in the mean time, lieutenant corner had brought Mrs. Ramsay to the ground, and was calling for some one to come and disarm her. I took a pistol from her hand, the pan of which was up, the cock down. I went up to captain Bell, who had a pistol, which he gave to me. One or two officers came to me and took the pistols out of my hand, and returned them to me. Ensigu Grant poured water into one, but I do not know which. I cannot say whether it was the pistol which I took from Mrs. Ramsay or the other. I prevented him from doing so to the second, I turned the one down, into which the water had been poured, to allow the water to run out, f afterwards placed the pistols on a table. Where I turned the pistol down was covered with a carpet, if any thing but water had come from the pistol, I do not think I should have heard, it as there was a new and an old carpet on the floor. should not have heard shot I think. It was between the two doors which came from the bow room where I stood when I turned the pistol down. I placed the pistols on the Mess table and on the arrival of lieut. col. Tapp, I asked what I should do with them; he told me I should seal them up. I did so, and I gave them to lieut. Burn, but it is a long time since. I was present when they were opened the next day by lieut. col. Tapp. They were examined, and in one there was found a heavy charge of shot and powder, and in the other damp powder and wadding. In consequence of seeing the different loading of the pistols, and my having poured out water I returned to the mess room,

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and received, from the sweeper, twentyfive pieces of lead, similar to those taken out of the other pistol; I gave them to lieutenant colonel Tapp.

Cross-examined by Mr. Turton. I saw nothing come from the pistol but water, when I turned it down; I did not even see the water, but I held the pistol down a sufficient time to allow the water to run out, and then raised it. There were many people talking, and probably the shot would not be heard running down the barrel. I do not know out of which of the pistols I poured the water.

Cross-examined by Mr. Clarke. The shot was of an unusual kind. The charge of powder drawn from the pistol, was very great; I should not like to have fired it. I should say, the pistol was not loaded by an experienced person.

By the Court. Supposing there had been no shot in the pistol, but only the quantity of powder I saw, and the wadding, fired close to lieutenant Talbot's head, serious consequences must, I think, have followed.

H. P. Burn, I am lieutenant and adjutant 1st Regiment Native Infantry, which was at Delhi in April last; I know Mrs. Ramsay by sight, but know not what country woman she is, nor what countryman Mr. Ramsay is; he aid belong to the 8th Regt N. I. On the 9th April I was dining at our mess, when shortly before 9 o'clock a person entered, dressed in military clothes. I saw the hands pointed towards lieut. Talbot, and heard the noise like the click of a pistol twice, but I did not observe a pistol. Lieut. Corner jumped up, and both fell to the ground. When down, I observed a pistol in her right hand, and heard her say "how dare you seize me? I am Mrs. Ramsay." Some time after Mrs. Ramsay had left the room, the pistols were sealed up, and delivered to my care. went with brigadier Cartwright to capt. Teulon's, to report what had happened, and with him to lieut col. Tapp. We all went to lieutenant Ramsay's, and, on getting near the house, capt. Teulon went into the compound, and we met a servant; Mr. Ramsay asked who was there? he came out and met us; captain Teulon lead him towards the road, and said the brigadier wished to speak to him. He asked what was the matter, and captain Teulon replied, that something unpleasant had occurred. I do not recollect clearly, but I think after he had

been told about pistols, or that Mrs. Ramsay had gone to the mess with pistols, he asked if the pistol had gone off. I am not positive as to this When we got into the road, Mr. Ramsay was asked if he knew where Mrs. Ramsay had gone, he said he did not know, but that she went out, saying, she would be revenged on lieutenant Talbot. It did escape my memory, but it was brought to my recollection while before the Grand Jury, that when asked if he knew what she had done, he replied he did not, however he approved of what she had intended or what she had done. After this conversation, brigadier Cartwright said, he would put Mr. Ramsay in restraint, as he considered him an accessory b fore the fact; Mr. Ramsay replied he had nothing to do with it.

Cross-examined by Mr. Turton. I did not recollect this till a question was put to me before the Grand Jury. I should have had a better recollection, in all probability, if this trial had come

on sooner.

C. E. Trevelyan. I am a civil servant on the Bengal establishment. I am acquainted with the cantonments of the 1st Regiment Native Infantry-it is called Ragepoore, and is in the centre division of the Delhi district, within two miles of Delhi, and under the same jurisdiction. On a Saturday, in April, I dined at the mess of the 1st Regiment of Native Infantry. I sat near lieute nant Corner, I observed, a person holding a pistol in both hands, pointed towards the head of an individual. I thought at first it was a joke. I observed a malignant smile upon the counte nance of the person. I saw the flash of the flint, and heard the click. I saw lieutenant Corner jump up, and push the person over; while on the ground, I heard her say, "unhand me Sir, unhand me; I am Mrs. Ramsay, how dare you." She was put sitting in a chair, when she abused the pistol for not going off, exclaiming, "oh the vile pistol." She said she would sacrifice five thousand lives, to take his. When asked, how she knew where lieutenan: Talbot was, she said, she looked through the cheeks at the end of the room, and and saw his "ugly face." When the pistols were being examined, she said, "they are well loaded, I put," either 32 or 35," witness did not know which, "grains of buck-shot in them, I took them out of the punkah." When

told, that if the pistol had gone off, she would have killed many others, she s id she did not care. There was six fingers, loading in one pistol-wet powder in the other.

Cross examined by Mr. Turton. I remember perfectly all I have now mentioned. I do not know whether it was 32, 35 or 36 grains or shot she mentioned. From what she said, the impression on my mind was, that she had put that number in each pistol. The malignant fiendish smile, made an impression which has never since left my mind. My idea was notwithstanding that it was a joke. Till the fire came from the flint I did think it was a joke. The smile was as if she had accomplished her object. I have no doubt I saw the sparks come from the flint. The pistol was held in both hands. When on the ground I saw a pistol in both hands, but not before. I did see her before upon the floor move her hand to wards her waist; this was I think before lieutenant Corner jumped up. I did not see her produce a second pistol. I sat on the same side of the table on which Mrs. Ramsay stood, perhaps four chairs removed from her.

Cross-examined by Mr. Clarke. I did not see the charge drawn, but one of the pistols had a loading of six fingers. I do not think it could have been loaded by an experienced person except to effect some desperate purpose. I think it was dangerously loaded.

David Lester Richardson. I know Mr. Ramsay; I do not know what countryman he is. I was at school with him at Brighton for about two years. I do not know his parents. have seen Mrs. Kamsay once; I do not know what country-woman she is. I believe Mr. Ramsay's father to be a wine merchant in the city of London.

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Cross-examined by Mr. Clarke. knew Mr. Ramsay in 1812 and 1813. I think him a quiet inoffensive man, certainly.

C. J. Mainwaring. I belong to the 1st Regt N. I. I was at the mess on the evening of this transaction. Shortly after dinner I saw a person enter the room dressed in a foraging cap and blue coat. I took no notice, but in a couple of mi nutes after I saw lieutenant Corner spring up and bear her to the ground. After she had been placed in the chair, some one remarked, it was lucky the pistol did not go off, upon which she

observed "oh that vile pistol! I would have sacrificed (some number of lives) to have taken his." I had charge of Mr. and Mrs. Ramsay on their passage down from Delhi to Calcutta, and during the passage I have heard her say “I wish I had scattered his brains upon the table." This was one evening on the bank of the river, talking to her husbaad. She also said, "his life will never be safe, I will have it yet, and if I die my brother -"here she stopped. Lieutenant Ramsay has said to me that he did not see why he should be put in restraint, for she told her intentions to others as well as himself.

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Cross-examined by Mr. Turton. The conversation I have spoken to as having heard, was on the banks of the river; Mrs. Ramsay must have known, I was within hearing distance. I was sitting a few yards behind them.

Fuckeran Meeter proved to having found some shot on the floor of the mess room of the 1st Regiment Native Infantry, on the morning of the 10th April, which he delivered to lieutenant Fisher.

It did not clearly appear in what part of the room, the shot was found.

Mr. R. Maclintock. I am acquainted with Mrs. Ramsay. I have known her for several years. My acquaintance began in Cheltenham, where she was, like myself, for a short time. I never heard her say what country woman she was. She speaks both English and French fluently. I have only spoken to her in English,— she speaks English like a native.

I have corresponded with her, I look at this paper, it is in French. I always corresponded with her in English. I cannot speak positively as to this being her writing, but I should take it to be her's rather than any one else's. I can judge best from the signature, I think it looks like her's.

Cross-examined by Mr. Turton. I have known Mrs. Ramsay for several years; she has lived occasionlly in my house. I have seen her frequently. I never saw any thing in her to the contrary a humane disposition. I could not suppose she would be guilty of a deliberate murder.

By the Court. If any one had asked me out of court, and not on my oath, I should say Mrs. Ramsay was an English woman, but I have no authority for it. I knew both her former husbands, Doctors O'Neil and Pattison. Her maiden name

was, I understand, Liddington. She had a sister, a charming young woman, who died in this country; she came out with Doctor and Mrs O'Neil from London, where I know she had been at school. I should have acted upon this signature as Mrs. Ramsay's if to an English letter.

Mrs. M. Renny. I know Mrs. Ramsay; I have heard my parents say, she was born at Cirencester, in Gloucestershire, and that she was a sister of mine. I do not know where she was born, as she is an elder sister of mine.

H. T. Tapp. I am lieutenant colonel of the 1st Regiment Native Infantry, which was quartered at Delhi in April last. I remember two officers coming to me that night. I went towards the bungalow of Mr. Ramsay, with lieutenant Burn, capt. Teulon, and brigadier Cartwright; the two former went in, by direction of the latter, and returned with Mr. Ramsay. When upon the road, he was asked where Mrs. Ramsay was, and he replied, she was just gone out; it was then inquired, where she had gone to, and he said, she had gone out, saying, she would be revenged upon lieutenant Talbot. He was then told, she had gone out dressed in his clothes, but I think he denied any knowledge of her having been so dressed, and my impression is, that he disclaimed all controul over her actions.

This witness spoke to the confinement of Mrs. Ramsay, and his directions to lieut. Fisher at the mess room, to seal the pistols up, and continued,

On the following day I got the pistols from lieut. Fisher, and opened them in his presence. I unloaded one of them, and found in it 34 pieces of lead and a heavy charge of fine powder, about three times as much as would be required for an ordinary charge, which I sealed up. I saw what was drawn from the second pistol, it consisted of blotting paper, completely wet, and covered with wet powder.

Identifies the pistols delivered to him by lieut. Fisher.

and proceeded with him to the edge of the compound of Mr. Ramsay's house. I then told capt. Teulon and lieut. Burn to go in and see if he was at home; they did So, and returned with him. I asked Mr. Ramsay if he knew what had passed, and, to the best of my knowledge, he said he did. I was not then aware that he had been informed of what had passed. I asked him if he had made any attempt to prevent his wife leaving his house, and he replied, that she had gone out for an hour or two to take her revenge of lieutenant Talbot, of which he highly approved. I turned round and asked the gentlemen, if they had heard what he said, upon which, he observed, that he did not wish to deny, what he highly approved of. I or colonel Tapp then observed, that he was an accessory before the fact.

Witness identified parcels received from reutenant colonel Tapp.

Nothing material was elicited in crossexamination.

Lieutenant-Colonel Tapp identified the parcels, containing the wadding found in both pistols; the powder in No. 1, weighing 106 Troy grains; the shot in Number 1, weighing 670 Troy grains; the 25 grains of shot said to have been found in the mess room of the 1st Regi ment Native Infantry.

Cross-examined. I have not put up the powder found in No. 2, which I considered to be much less than in No. 1, owing to its having been wetted.

Peter Teulon. I am a captain in 1st Regiment Native Infantry, and remember going on the night of 9th April to the house of lieut. Ramsay. I saw him at about 10 o'clock that night in his own compound. I went to his bungalow to ascertain if he was at home. On going in, I met a native whom I asked if he was Mr. Ramsay's servant; he said yes, and I asked if his master was at home, to which he replied in the affirmative, and immediately lieut. Ramsay called out of the verandah. I told him the brigadier and colonel Tapp wished to speak to him. He came out and asked what had happened; I said the pistol would not go off-nothing more.

This witness corroborated the former evidence, as to the nature of the conversation which followed and said, that after having been directed to see a guard placed over Mr. Ramsay, he went into his bungalow and asked if he had any